300 chip turbo SNG's

[Danielle Angel]

Does anyone play these ?? Play for either a warm up of the brain or for a bit of fun. In addition do you classify them as luckathons or patientathons ?? It is not often I lose in these tournaments but they seem really bizarre. I would like to hear thoughts if people think they are a game for donkeys or not. :p

[Danielle Angel]

I jinxed myself, I had my first 300chip game in ages where I didn't place :(

[Frydenholm1]

Turbogames doesn't fit my tight agressive style - the combination with th low stack makes it really hard for me to make a difference.
But I have tried them sometimes and actually my results are not as bad as I feared before I joined it for the first time.
I consider these games pure entertainment - I know some people who sees this as a training for being shortstacked in a tournament, but I don't think it possible to compare because a big part of the other players does not act as if they were playing in a ordinary tour.

[Buldermar]

Super turbo SNG's where you start with 10 BB's or less is like a lottery. You might have an edge over the other players when you play low stakes due to their stupidity, but the rakes will outweight this edge as you increase the buy-in due to more competetion.

This kind of super turbo SNG's leaves no room for creative plays. It is almost always Push/Fold strategies and therefore almost no postflop play. You can only get an edge over the other players if you know when to push and when to fold. I don't think you develop your game much by playing these super turbo SNG's. The deeper stacks and smaller blinds, the more will your game be put to a test. :)

[wmicio]

Super turbo SNG's where you start with 10 BB's or less is like a lottery. You might have an edge over the other players when you play low stakes due to their stupidity, but the rakes will outweight this edge as you increase the buy-in due to more competetion.

This kind of super turbo SNG's leaves no room for creative plays. It is almost always Push/Fold strategies and therefore almost no postflop play. You can only get an edge over the other players if you know when to push and when to fold. I don't think you develop your game much by playing these super turbo SNG's. The deeper stacks and smaller blinds, the more will your game be put to a test. :)

yes it's like a lottery...it's a no brain game!! :confused:

[DoubleAcesDK]

Well i agree the concept adds more varians to the game but a lottery its not. First of all its a turbo sng and not super turbo, so still some room for play. However for a tight player these sngs is a great training for late game tournanment play where tightplayers often end up getting pretty low due to blinds, where they in these sngs can train their positionsplay and improve their understanding of endgame play. But having said that i dont recommend these kinds of sngs as being a good place to win alot of money due to the higher varians in the setup. Next thing if you are tilting i think these sngs are very good to get your anger out in, just pick a low buyin and donk away your tilt and go back to the better valued normal speed sngs og deeper stacked turbo sngs where the varians is alot more on your side.

[Buldermar]

I don't quite agree on that one. I think you get much more practice from actually playing tournaments. There isn't even room for a reraise in these 300chip SNG's. I guess we just look at it differently.

[DoubleAcesDK]

Well if you look at it on many sites IE on Ipoker you get a very fast blindstructure at the end of the tourneys and you have to pick your spots to make your moves cause one move most often can make you pot commited and thats exactly why i think these SNGs can help your endgame play in tourneys picking your spots and using the advantage of positionplay :) But i know we dont always agreee but its cool :D

[Buldermar]

Yeah I'm respecting your way of playing a lot and you have proven to be succesful, no doubt of that. I guess it does help a bit, I just think they are a waste of time. I think you get the best practice altogether by playing deepstack tournaments.

[DoubleAcesDK]

Yea dont misunderstand me i dont like em either but for some it can be good training if they dont know how to play positionplay and play according to odds thats all :D

[Buldermar]

True. You will be very unsuccesful in those if you don't understand odds :D

[LiveStraddle]

These tournies are great practise for when you reach turbo mtt final tables

[Buldermar]

I will have to agree on that one. I've recently played a bunch of the 90person 24+2$ KO SNG's on fulltilt. While some players know how to play 9handed without antes, a fair amount of players fail to loosen up a bit when the antes are applied and even fewer are capable of staying aggressive on the FT and loosing up a bit more every time a player has been knocked out. I find the situation somewhat similar to the situation you see in these turbos due to the blind structure. Antes are applied before the first break, giving the advantage to players that knows how antes affect the game.

[MoneyMatt1]

these are +EV for me