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live game 1/2, 10 players. im in seat 10 also in SB with $1100 behind (chip leader). UTG raises 6BB 2 callers i call, ($50 in pot). flop 7-7-4. i bet $35, UTG calls. heads up for the turn. turn 7, i bet $55, UTG calls. river Q, i bet $65, UTG all-in for a total of $205.
i called.... sorry for the delay
what did we have? and who won?
Danielle Angel
01-11-2009, 12:28 AM
You pock Queens ... UTG pock Kings, you win ?
Slinky
01-11-2009, 12:31 AM
Well i wouldve thought if you had any premium hand AA KK QQ AK AQ JJ etc.. you wouldve reraised pre because you dont want a family pot..so i'd say maybe JQ QK or a medium PP.. Or a raggy ace A7!
Danielle Angel
01-11-2009, 12:35 AM
it was raised 6 BB that's huge ... isnt it ?
Slinky
01-11-2009, 12:37 AM
it was raised 6 BB that's huge ... isnt it ?
Yea .. and look at all the callers lol Loose table? I'm defo reraising pre with any premium hand there.
Danielle Angel
01-11-2009, 12:57 AM
so very true
Slinky
01-11-2009, 12:58 AM
I'll say UTG has AA or KK maybe and you have 78 67 A7 ... my guess!
i had 78, UTG had AQ. rivered his Q. good choice
Danielle Angel
01-11-2009, 02:40 AM
wow I read well lmao :rolleyes:
Matti Doogs
01-11-2009, 04:01 AM
MMMM very crazy table, you must have been confident to call with 7 8 for an extra $11 when you only had committed $1, obviously once the board fell you were never going to lose, dont know if I would suggest this play often, however once in a while (as you have shown) can sometimes work, as if the cards happen to fall like they did, nobody else could suspect that you would be holding a seven there. Nice win but dont be fooled that you should call with those cards all the time, nice way to lose your stack if you do.
Degen
01-11-2009, 08:55 AM
You really have to stop this donking out on the flop stuff. It is ok sometimes but you have done this on like every hand you have posted.
If you flop a moster, check/raise. This is also good for bluffing.
Donking is usually what I'll do versus people who will ALWAYS raise me or against semi-strong hands vs. multiple opponents when I'm going to dump it to resistance (Top Pair Weak Kicker for instance).
There are other times to donk but something tells me you don't have a coherent strategy when you do this, you just say 'oh, i have a piece, i bet'. This is poor.
Matti Doogs
01-11-2009, 11:09 AM
totally agree WD if you hit a monster on the flop and have the obvious advantage, play position and check and then let them bet first, no point betting hard every time and hoping they call, def bad play if this is the standard..
Matti Doogs
01-11-2009, 11:10 AM
obviously dont do this every time but more than the other i believe.
fair enough, and if i were playing a tight table i wouldnt vcall out of position with 78. however this particular crowd plays tooooo loose, i raised $17 preflop with AA and got 5 callers after only turning over premium hands. i read in super system to always bet your trips, set, flush everything unless its the complete nuts and also i should be calling with hands my oppenents are capable of raising. so your suggesting more slow playing against multiple players?
i def wouldnt say i donk the flop. the hands i post are the most extreme circumstance that i really am on the fence about, and appreciate the advice. but i bet hard to figure out what people have, and get them off draws. i dont like being drawn out on (i know who does) on all the hands i discuss i never roll with it cause "i have a piece of it" i had top trips, top 2, flopped trips w A kicker. these are my "on the fence" hands, meaning i dont know how they should be played. and no i dont really have a set strategy, i have learned to never slow play and never check raise. i took $200 to 2K the other night over 10hrs. please help me make the right choices and pregame strategy
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